The Minds Capital Podcast

$233m For and By Independent Sponsors
4 of 4 Exits Above 10x MOIC
The Journey to 7 Platforms
The 3-5-7x MOIC Underwriting Framework
A Portfolio Marked Up at 10x MOIC
20x MOIC After Decade-Long Hold
Carving Out an 8x MOIC in 3 Years
Buying 9-Figure Deals
Learning from the best independent sponsors

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Ben Rudman
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Ben Rudman

Grew EV 10x in 5 Years

Ben Rudman knew he wanted to work in food before he knew what investment banking was. His first independent sponsor deal, Western Smokehouse Partners, started with ~60 employees in 2018. By the time it sold 4.5 years later, it had almost 700 employees across 4 facilities and enterprise value had grown ~10x.

Partners
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Partners

On the Ground at McGuireWoods 2026

Recorded from McGuireWoods in Dallas after Day 1, Niklas, Max & Will compare notes from the conference floor. Last year had ~2,000 attendees and this year felt bigger. The Minds team had ~30-40 meetings, found 3-5 qualified deal leads & ~6 prospective podcast guests. The day before, Minds hosted its annual Investor Day with 70+ RSVPs from 142 LPs and 8 portfolio sponsors attending.

Kevin Ramsier
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Kevin Ramsier

32x MOIC After 100 Investors Said No

Since Kevin Ramsier's last appearance on this podcast, his firm, Sier Capital, has closed a new infrastructure platform (where Minds Capital is an investor) and exited another business that generated a 32x MOIC over a 7-year hold. The same business started with 95% customer concentration and nearly 100 investors said no.

Grant Kornman
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Grant Kornman

The $600M Bet on Independent Sponsors

Grant Kornman co-founded NCK Capital as an independent sponsor in 2013, then moved to the capital side with Align Collaborate in 2023. Align now manages $600m+ across 2 dedicated funds and writes $10-40m equity checks into sponsor-led LMM deals. Grant has watched the independent sponsor market evolve from both sides.

Greg Brown
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Greg Brown

815 Independent Sponsor Deals Analyzed

Greg Brown is a Professor of Finance at UNC Kenan-Flagler and Founder of the Institute for Private Capital. On July 15, 2026, he published the first large-scale study of independent sponsor performance, covering 815 deals. Investor-reported transactions generated a 2.86x average gross TVPI and 29.3% gross IRR, outperforming matched non-IS PE deals by 0.73x TVPI and 11.4% IRR on average, with no statistically significant increase in downside risk.

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