1 Equity Raise ($500k), 4 PortCos

Andrew McDonald didn't build Fourco Holdings with a deck and a thesis. He built it by buying one small business, making it throw off cash, then buying the next one.

Andrew McDonald

1 Equity Raise ($500k), 4 PortCos

Andrew McDonald raised $500k to acquire one small business selling work safety shoes in 2015. He used the cash flow from this fledgling company to acquire his next one, a fireworks distributor. He recently clinched his first exit, and today enjoys autonomous control over an eclectic portfolio. Andrew is wise beyond his years, with analogies that will make your head spin.

Listen to the episode

Minds Capital is an equity fund for independent sponsors. We invest $1-3m of equity per platform and average one commitment per month.

This episode is sponsored by

YouTube icon
Spotify icon
LinkedIn icon
X icon
Website icon

At first glance, the portfolio feels a bit random: Fireworks, drone displays, confetti supply, FedEx routes, and a workwear safety shoe distributor (recently exited). Most PE funds wouldn't group these together in one portfolio (let alone acquire them in the first place). But Andrew's approach is more practical than intellectual as he searches for durable demand and sustainable operations, with the well-known willingness to get into the messy details (i.e. "the weeds"). He spends enough time inside the business to really understand what moves the needle.

The first deal set the tone. Workwear Safety Shoes was a specialty distributor serving customers who needed OSHA-compliant footwear for employees in the field. The revenue was incredibly stable and grew 2-4% every year from 1999 to 2015. There was furthermore no customer concentration, and retention had stayed above 99%. After buying it, Fourco pushed growth higher, improved EBITDA margins, cut inventory by about 25%, and nearly halved A/R days outstanding. And that’s how the initial $500k equity check turned into a 10x+ MOIC exit.

Andrew advocates for longer holds (with a realistic & pragmatic perspective) because it's tough to find good companies, and closing them is even tougher. And then you need to staff them too. Andrew’s view is when you find something that works, don’t rush to sell it. Let revenue compound and use dividends to fund your next move. Give yourself time for a "bluebird" moment, whether that’s a strategic buyer, a hot cycle in the industry, or a shift in customer demand.

For first-time buyers, the advice is straightforward: View your first acquisition as a Trojan horse. It doesn’t have to be perfect (but it can’t be reckless either). Buy a B or B+ business, get in the game, build credibility, and create enough momentum to keep going. Then it’s about volume: make the calls, take the meetings, run the reps, and put in enough effort that not closing a deal starts to feel like the exception.

‍

More recent episodes

Ben Rudman
EP.
86
with
Ben Rudman

Grew EV 10x in 5 Years

Ben Rudman knew he wanted to work in food before he knew what investment banking was. His first independent sponsor deal, Western Smokehouse Partners, started with ~60 employees in 2018. By the time it sold 4.5 years later, it had almost 700 employees across 4 facilities and enterprise value had grown ~10x.

Partners
EP.
85
with
Partners

On the Ground at McGuireWoods 2026

Recorded from McGuireWoods in Dallas after Day 1, Niklas, Max & Will compare notes from the conference floor. Last year had ~2,000 attendees and this year felt bigger. The Minds team had ~30-40 meetings, found 3-5 qualified deal leads & ~6 prospective podcast guests. The day before, Minds hosted its annual Investor Day with 70+ RSVPs from 142 LPs and 8 portfolio sponsors attending.

Kevin Ramsier
EP.
84
with
Kevin Ramsier

32x MOIC After 100 Investors Said No

Since Kevin Ramsier's last appearance on this podcast, his firm, Sier Capital, has closed a new infrastructure platform (where Minds Capital is an investor) and exited another business that generated a 32x MOIC over a 7-year hold. The same business started with 95% customer concentration and nearly 100 investors said no.

new episode every week
new episode every week
new episode every week
new episode every week
new episode every week
new episode every week

Be the first to know about new episodes!

Receive summaries of our weekly interview drops:
Thank you! You've subscribed to our podcast list.
Oops! Something went wrong while submitting the form.
Want to recommend a guest for the Minds Capital Podcast?
Send an email to podcast@mindscapital.co.